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There is one authority, and it is God’s

In Eternal Subordination of the Son: The Basics, Part III at CBMW's Gender Blog, Jeff Robinson writes,

Of this text [I Cor. 15:24-28] [Bruce A.] Ware writes: "The Son has his position over all of creation, bringing everything into subjection under his own feet, only because the Father has given all things to the Son. The Son, then, shows himself as the supreme victor and conqueror of all, including the conqueror of death itself, only because the Father has given him this highest of all callings and roles. In full acknowledgment of the Father's supremacy, the Son displays his submission to the Father by delivering up the now-conquered kingdom to the Father, and then, remarkably, by subjecting himself also to his Father. Though all of creation is subject to the Son, the Son himself is subject to the Father."

I agree with what Ware says except for the last two sentences. Does Christ fully acknowledge the Father's supremacy, and does He subject Himself to the Father? Does He have any other choice but to submit to the Father? Has He any other choice than to obey? I would say that, no, He doesn’t. There is no place in Scripture that I can find in which Jesus acknowledges the Father's supremacy or is said to submit to the Father, and saying that He obeyed does not mean that He could’ve not. But because He did, He was perfect, and accomplished God’s purposes – this is the significance of His obedience. He does the will of the Father because He is God, and because that is why the Father sent Him – that is His purpose. We could say that Christ is the Father's agent.

But, being that He is part of the Godhead, one part of the Triune God, being God, is His submission even an issue in terms of hierarchy or rank? In I Cor. 15:28 we read that the Son will be subjected. But Who will do this subjecting? It does not say that the Son Himself will subject Himself to the Father. And what is the purpose of the subjection? To show Who has supremacy over Whom? Or so that what was accomplished in Christ will be accommodated into the whole of the Godhead, “that God may be all in all”?

Others point to the fact that Christ is seated at God's right hand to indicate that God has final authority over Christ, or is higher in rank. I suppose that one could look at it this way, but for what purpose? I don't believe that the point is Who has more authority, power, choice, or rights than Whom, or Whose authority is superior to Whose, or Whose rank is higher. It's about agency, and purpose -- since there is one authority.

I think the point that God has given Christ all things, as Christ gives to us in turn, is to show the authority that Christ, and those whom He in turn gives authority, have: God’s authority – the final, only, and one authority. Subjection, in God’s hierarchy, appears ultimately not to put Christ and His redeemed eternally under, but to raise them up! According to Ephesians 1-2, God has lifted Christ up and seated Him at His right hand, and has also raised us up with Him and seated us in the heavenly places. The only things that will be put under Him (and us) forever are heavenly and earthly powers and authorities, and those things which are evil. The point of any hierarchy that exists in regards to God in spiritual matters is to show Who has the authority, and who (or what) doesn’t.

Therefore, Christ is not head of the husband to show any supremacy or to put him under Him, but to raise him up. Likewise, a husband is not head of his wife to show any supremacy or to put her under him, but to raise her up.

Rise up!


Comments

ok. problems. I post on the topic today- but will hope to dovetail with your conversation, here, as well.
Problem 1: what does authority mean when there is nothing under authority? and what is hierarchy, then, in view of what you have said here... an exercise in semantics?

problem 2: not yours, but the the statements you are debating...
Ideas of submission within the Godhead were dealt with thoroughly by Athanasius, but the hierarchalists still insist on trying to make Christ somehow less than his Father. It seems to me that the scriptures which speak of the submission of Christ have to do with the work of salvation: restoring us, along with all creation, to right relationship to the Father. He returns us to the Father's authority, within Himself (when we partake of His body by faith).

It is not referring to His prior existence in heaven as one of the Trinity. It is as Son of Man within whom we are given portion that subjects all within Himself to the Father that all may be restored to submitting directly to the Father.

Otherwise I don't see how it can make sense. How does Christ even need to submit or subject Himself as the Son of God? In what way would He be out of harmony with the Father? It is only when we see Him in the work of salvation, struggling to submit in identification with our sinful souls that He must pray "Not my will, but thine be done"

problem 3: although I agree with the spirit of what you say, I do think that we are called to submit under Christ in God... it isn't that Christ "puts" us under Him, but we put ourselves under Him. The same context works in the marriage relationship referenced. We all align under God's authority.

... as opposed to the devils.

Posted by: Ilona at February 24, 2008 6:43 PM

Hi Ilona,

On problem #1: I'm not sure how to respond, because your questions don’t seem to relate to the content of my post. I didn’t say that there is nothing under authority; nor that there is no hierarchy at all.

On problem #2: I’m not sure what problem you are speaking to.

On problem #3: Can you provide an example in Scripture of what you mean by "we are all called to submit under Christ in God," or that "we put ourselves under Him"?

Posted by: Bonnie at February 24, 2008 11:45 PM

There is also this interesting verse that I had to read aloud before I really noticed it:

"You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe. I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me, but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me. (John 14:28-31)
Posted by: Tap at February 27, 2008 7:48 PM
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