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Godly womanhood and manhood: a first look

I am starting a series of posts to discuss arguments being presented by prominent figures in the church today on the topic of manhood and womanhood.  I believe that there is great need for more conversation, not that there hasn’t been a plethora already.  But I have seen little that rings absolutely true, and have yet to find a prevalent model that I can wholeheartedly support.  I am not, I repeat, not, trying to set myself up as an authority.  I aim to think through some things and offer my thoughts for whatever they may be worth.  (If I can’t do that, I might as well quit blogging, or writing and speaking altogether.)  I aim to discern, not to judge.  So I ask that whoever reads what I write consider the truth or falsehood of my claims merely for what they are.    

 

So in the end, this whole controversy is really about God and how His character is reflected in the beauty and excellence of manhood and womanhood as He created it.  Will we glorify God through manhood and womanhood lived according to His Word?  Or will we deny His Word and give in to the pressures of modern culture?  That is the choice we have to make.
–Wayne Grudem, from the homepage of the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood.

I do not know the context from which this quote is taken, but, as it stands alone on the homepage of the CBMW, I will address it as such. 

In my view, the controversy is not about God and His character as expressed in gender-specific ways; it is about the ways in which men and women see fit to understand manhood and womanhood.  If Grudem is suggesting that the final word on the matter is God’s design for man and woman, and that His character is evident in the godly expression of both manhood and womanhood, then I agree.  However, I don’t think that manhood and womanhood themselves hang in the balance.  What does hang in the balance is Christian charity, unity, and godly character.  What really matters is how we stand before God and live out our lives with one another.  What matters are the auspices under which interpretation of Biblical texts is made, and the manner in which disagreement over these texts is handled. 

As with the best arguments for, say, Calvinist belief vs. other Christian creeds, there will always be disagreements among sincere followers of Christ.  The debate over complementarian vs. egalitarian views toward men and women is no different, which is why I believe that what must come first are the (gender-less) attitudes of humility before God and true charity toward all.Before we ask, “Will we glorify God through manhood and womanhood lived according to His Word?” we must ask, “Will we glorify God as persons redeemed in Christ, according to His Word?”  The fruits of the Spirit –  love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control (Galatians 5:22-23) – know no gender.  Nor is their expression  gender-specific.  Therefore if we say that men and women are different except for being equal heirs of salvation, we make them mostly different in essence, and lose sight of the ways in which their essence is the same.  (I.e., they are human, and therefore both possessed of the essence of humanity.)  We also lose sight of the true nature of complementarity: that women have to offer what men need and vice-versa, in the fullest possible way that can be realized.

The complementarian view espoused by those associated with the CBMW states that egalitarian thinking evidences a denial of God’s Word and a giving-in to the pressures of modern culture.  Which, in some cases, it does.  But tensions between the genders and pressures to behave in socially-influenced ways have been around for a long time; they are as old as sin.  And I wonder whether this particular view does not also deny portions of God’s Word, as well as the difficulties inherent in translation and interpretation of the text.  No Christian, past or present, no matter how pious and erudite, has not held some error in his or her personal interpretation of Scripture.  The essentials of faith are, I believe, readily apprehended from the major translations available.  But there are many lesser points which are not so readily understandable.  I don’t believe that rightness on these lesser points is necessary to personal salvation, or the survival of the church, or the furthering of the gospel (although, on that last point, they may be to some extent).

I wonder whether the efforts of complementarians such as Grudem to counter modern culture are not merely another form of giving in, of giving in to a pressure to counter what they see as a harmful force.  Certainly we have more than just the two choices, to either give in or counter; we can also rise above.  We can do exegesis and form a theology of gender that is universally true for as long as Creation is in its present state; i.e., since the Curse, and until Christ comes again. 

This must be the starting-point for a proper theology of gender: that we recognize the difficulties   in the Biblical text, which, while God-breathed in its original form, is subject to the deficiencies of the translation process, which include social influences from which none are immune.  We must recognize that interpretation of these texts is not always straightforward, while conceding that the call to extend grace, mercy, peace, gentleness, self-control, patience, kindness, goodness, and faithfulness to one another -- male and female -- is clear indeed.

Comments

The complementarian view espoused by those associated with the CBMW states that egalitarian thinking evidences a denial of God’s Word and a giving-in to the pressures of modern culture. Which, in some cases, it does.

You leave this hanging. In what way?

Posted by: Sue at December 18, 2007 1:55 AM

Sue,

I believe that some of the exegesis I’ve seen done by some egalitarians on Genesis and some of the Pauline passages is inaccurate. I've also observed some egalitarians to adopt characteristics of indiscriminate feminism, meaning a view of men and women that does not adequately honor gender differences or gender relations.

I also believe that there is truth to the claim that, in the same way that some homosexuals have "reinterpreted" Scripture in order to lend legitimacy to homosexuality, some men and women have reinterpreted Scripture in order to disallow legitimate differences between the sexes.

I believe that many complementarians misinterpret Scripture as well, and give far too much deference to tradition.

Posted by: Bonnie at December 18, 2007 1:38 PM

I don't know if it is useful to make these claims if you don't give examples. You say something but it is unsupported by evidence. I would like to interact with your ideas. For what it is worth, I agree with you. However, I'll give an example.

I think hypotasso can be legitimately translated as "yield" but not as simply "support". This is an example of an egalitarian error.


On the other hand, it is a complementarian error to say that if hypotasso is used that means it is submission to an authority, and cannot mean mutual submission. That is the complementarian error.

Clement used submit to one another, very clearly, with no authority in the picture. So the complementarian exegesis has no foundation.

So, I think examples are needed or the statement should not be made.

It is also worth noting that the scripture was reinterpreted by the reformers to allow dissent from the Catholic church, and scripture was reinterpreted by abolitionsists to abolish slavery. Scripture was also reintrepreted by 19th century feminists to promote the purity movement. By and large the reinterpretation of scripture has been essential to civilization as we know it.

Posted by: Sue at December 18, 2007 4:01 PM

Sounds like an ambitious project. That's a great last sentence.

Posted by: Martin LaBar at December 18, 2007 5:18 PM

I look forward to what you'll have to say on this, Bonnie.

Sue, I see your point about the reinterpretation of Scripture fostering changes in the views of the Church. But I think the end of such reinterpretation should always be to gain a more truthful understanding of the character of God and His desires for us. For the most part, the effects of these reinterpretations have had on civilization are secondary consequences of the primary work of revelation and transformation that God is doing in his Church.

I think too much of the debate about men and women has been a reaction against culture (which is bound to produce error, as every reaction necessarily over-corrects ) rather than motivated by a desire to better know the heart of God.

In that sense, there has been more politics driving exegesis in these matters than a good faith desire to understand the original intent of the biblical writers.

Posted by: Charlie at December 18, 2007 7:22 PM

Thanks for your comment, Sue. I titled my post “Godly womanhood and manhood: a first look,” to introduce a series I hope to do and establish the foundation for the way I believe the issue should be approached. Given that it is a blog post, I intended to keep it fairly short and to the point. I plan to get into more detail of the type you are requesting in future posts.

My thesis was not to make a charge against egalitarians, but to respond to the quote by Grudem in order to make my point. I agreed with his point in part, while also pointing out that it is not just the egalitarian "side" that does what he charges.

Posted by: Bonnie at December 18, 2007 7:40 PM
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