Robert Reich scares me. He believes we are in a "religious war" against a group that wants to establish a "theocracy" in America. He feels Democrats need to do more to stand up to this threat or all will be lost. He contends that this is a "clear and present danger."
Similar statements have been considered alarmist when they referred to Islam. But Reich isn't worried about Islamic fundamentalists. He's worried about evangelical Christians.
The most basic freedom, in my view, is religious liberty, so I am leery of those who try to stifle debate on matters of religious importance. Reich wants for evangelical Christians to be keep our faith out of the public square. Since we oppose issues that he holds dear (abortion-on-demand, gay rights) he wants us to shut up and go away.
So much for Reich being a "liberal."
The outcome of the 2004 presidential election will depend partly on what happens between now and Election Day in Iraq and to the U.S. economy. But it will also turn on the religious wars -- fueled by evangelical Protestants, the ground troops of the Republican Party. The conventional wisdom is that these issues are sure winners for the right. But Democrats can hold their own in these wars -- if they respond vigorously to the coming assault.
Either Reich didn't do his homework or he doesn't have the courage to be honest. The truth is that only 14% of Republicans are evangelical while 17% are Catholic. Catholic Republicans are not only against both abortion and gay marriage but they are a larger segment of the party than evangelicals. Why doesn't he consider Catholics to be "ground troops" in the "religious wars"? Could it be that he is afraid to offend the large contingent of Catholics who are Democrats?
Democrats should call all this for what it is -- a clear and present danger to religious liberty in America. For more than three hundred years, the liberal tradition has sought to free people from the tyranny of religious doctrines that would otherwise be imposed on them. Today's evangelical right detests that tradition and seeks nothing short of a state-sponsored religion. But maintaining the separation of church and state is a necessary precondition of liberty.
Can Reich provide one example where evangelicals have sought to establish a "state-sponsored religion?" Does he even understand what evangelicals believe? Evangelicals are a sub-set of Christianity, a religion that includes Catholics, Episcopalians, liberal Protestants, Greek Orthodox, etc. Maybe he isn't familiar with American history so someone should inform him that "evangelicals" left Europe in order to *avoid* state-sponsored religion.
Public opinion sides with the Democrats. Even though a slim majority continues to oppose gay marriage, polls show that most Americans believe that homosexual relationships between consenting adults should be legal, that the choice of whether to have an abortion should be up to a woman and her doctor, that stem-cell research should be legal, and that religion should stay out of the public schools.
Public opinion in Europe also believes that the Jews are the greatest threat to world peace. Does that mean we should stop supporting Israel? I understand that Reich worked under a President whose morality was guided by opinion polls but that doesn't mean all Americans do so.
But unless Democrats focus the public's attention on the larger ongoing assault on religious liberty, the evangelical right will whittle away these freedoms.
Let me get this straight. Reich wants to limit the influence of evangelicals in order to protect religious liberty? Doesn't The American Prospect have editors responsible for catching this type of nonsense? Where was Matthew Yglesias? Surely he would have pointed out the irony in this statement.
The evangelicals' victory on "partial-birth" abortion proves only that gruesome pictures and inflamed comments can persuade a majority that a particular procedure is inhumane.
The "gruesome pictures" were of partial-birth abortions. Obviously, Reich prefers that the public remain ignorant of the details about abortion in order that the truth doesn't interfere with a woman's "right to choose." Unfortunately, the truth is often messy and when people see the pictures for themselves they tend to be repulsed by infanticide.
It has no bearing on the more basic question of whether the evangelical view about when life begins should be imposed on the rest of America.
Reich appears to be as ignorant of science as he is of history. There is no question of "when life begins"; it begins at conception. That is a scientific fact. The question is when should it be legal for a woman to exercise a "right" to end this life for her own purposes.
Democrats should be clear that the issues of abortion and stem-cell research are about religious liberty. Tar the Republicans and the evangelicals with William Pryor and other nominees who want to overrule Roe. Show that the Senate Democrats' filibuster of these nominees is another front in the same religious war. Likewise, Democrats should hold evangelicals accountable for what they're trying to do in our nation's schools -- promoting the teaching of creationism, demanding school prayer, pushing "abstinence until marriage" programs, and opposing sex education. This is all about imposing their religious views on our children.
Why don't we debate these issues publicly and let the people decide? Isn't that the way we should handle such issues in liberal democracy?
The religious wars aren't pretty. Religious wars never are. But Democrats should mount a firm and clear counter-assault. In the months leading up to Election Day, when Republicans are screaming about God and accusing the Democrats of siding with sexual deviants and baby killers, Democrats should remind Americans that however important religion is to our spiritual lives, there is no room for liberty in a theocracy.
Reich's attempts to equate evangelicals with the Islamo-fascists will backfire. Most Americans, even Democrats, do not want abortion-on-demand, gay marriage, and sex education in kindergarten. Most Americans are not like Robert Reich. They aren't anti-religious fundamentalists
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I agree with your sentiments, but bear in mind that whipping up fear of Christian "fundamentalists" has worked for the Democrats in the past. Most people are ignorant about who Evangelicals are & base their prejudices on stereotypes. The strategy Reich is proposing is despicable, but often effective.
posted on 11.29.2003 1:40 PM2
The very first time I saw Reich, I pegged him as a socialist worm and he has proven my gut to be right. Unfortunately, there are hundreds of thousands of other folks that feel the same as he does toward anything that's a threat to socialist philosophy. I agree with everything in your post.
posted on 11.30.2003 9:53 AM3
I think it's interesting how people like Reich can make any issue into a religious issue by pointing out what the Christian position is and then pointing out that Republicans tend to support it. I don't know what things are like in his world, but in the real world, murdering children isn't an issue of personal faith.
posted on 11.30.2003 10:28 PM4
Take Bob's 2 pet issues - abortion and gay marriage - I don't get 'em. Why does he feel so strongly about them. If the question were reversed, I think it's fairly easy to see why I (an evangelical) would feel so stringly about them. God says one man and one woman, and I believe that since an unborn child is alive, killing it is tantamount to murder - also prohibited by God. But again, why the liberal zeal for these issues - I mean if it MIGHT be alive why not err on the side of humanity, or at least not passionately preach a gospel of abortion. Gay marriages, why do liberals think this is so important? Seriously, I don't get it. Are liberals evil? Do they find sport in pissing off conservatives? Is there some fabulous financial reward for those who promote these practices? Please enlighten me, what's in it for them??
posted on 12.01.2003 1:56 AM5
I'm not sure about his polling data, of course he isn't actually quoting any poll in particular conveniently enough... there certainly is a stronger majority against gay marriage than there is for abortion (and some polls show the majority against abortion, and very few support the "abortion on demand" approach the Democrats use).
It is a good point that polls are innaccurate and not always reflective of truth... I don't think the polls even agree with him, though.
posted on 12.01.2003 8:56 PM6
I've noticed that your values use populist rhetoric to cover up an anti-worker , pro-plutocracy fascist agenda. The phrase "hired fascist goons" comes to mind. Sort of like when the oligarchic installed Nazis called themselves "Socialists" and said they'd get rid of the parastical plutocracy to fool the people into supporting them. Even then the people weren't that stupid and the plutes installed Hitler against the will of the voters. The oligarchs then murdered 55 million members of the left through their Hitler puppet and other installed fascists in Europe alone in WWII.
posted on 01.14.2004 10:11 PM